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  • Originally posted by minx

    anyways, told ya told ya...ner nerrr na nerrr nerrr (sorry just had to do it...) sorry!

    -M
    You told us what? LOL
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    • Nothing.

      Just waiting for the independent verification if the code is good or not, not fan boi rah rah.

      Chris
      "Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to Authority
      is not using his intelligence, he is just using his memory."
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      • Originally posted by ChrisLM2001
        Just waiting for the independent verification if the code is good or not
        Yep. The PDF is basically what the plaintiff accused the defendant of, in the plaintiff's point of view. It's not a legal decision by the court.
        Last edited by Vtec44; Wed 23rd Nov '05, 2:39pm.
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        • Originally posted by BrentWilson

          Some pretty convincing things inside of the court report.


          I want to point something out. That court 'report' is just the complaint filed by PP. It is NOT evidence. It is merely an accusation and only one side of the story. Complaints always tell the story in a light most favorable to the complainant, and doesnt mean that any of the allegations could be proven. Dont read the complaint and conclude Brian of VBA did all that. Its just an allegation, its not evidence or a court decision.
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          • Some folks don't know how to read a court document, and just conclude "guilty" from what's said on line one (or opening arguments in court). It's why we have juries to decide if XYZ is true or not, as the mob has little patience for the truth or justice in itself.

            Since this was settled outside a jury vote, no ruling of guilt or innocence was made.

            Problem here is we only have one side talking (or should I say bragging), which skews the presentation -- but doesn't change this very legal fact...

            Until proven in a court of law a person is presumed to be innocent.
            I guess some folks have little respect for the Law, and consider lynch mobs ("He's guilty!! Let's hang him!!") is "justice" instead.

            Chris
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            • Originally posted by ChrisLM2001

              Problem here is we only have one side talking (or should I say bragging), which skews the presentation -- but doesn't change this very legal fact...


              exactly.
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              • Yet another example of why closed source software isn't working.

                Meh
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                • Originally posted by ChrisLM2001
                  Nothing.

                  Just waiting for the independent verification if the code is good or not, not fan boi rah rah.

                  Chris
                  So far independent audits being conducted currently are showing up nothing.
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                  • Guess we'll see if the evidence will prove Brian's innocence or guilt in the public arena in the near future.

                    All I wish to say here is this: I don't like what was done and how it was played out. IMO, it's childish and no one (and I mean no one) should have to stand accused without a voice to defend themselves -- be it being gagged or they're too poor to defend themselves. That could be anyone of us, no matter how rich or poor we are.

                    Let the community judge Brian by what he produced, and if he's guilty it's his work that will prove it (not some one sided legal document). If he's innocent, his work will again prove his accusers wrong.

                    This compare needs to be done, or anyone of us will face this crap, and some litigation happy bozo will put the screws into the entire modding community.

                    Chris
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                    is not using his intelligence, he is just using his memory."
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                    • You are leaving out the most damaging evidence. Brian turned over the software.
                      Is it 100% proof? No but cmon, it just makes sense.

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                      • Originally posted by Zonex
                        You are leaving out the most damaging evidence. Brian turned over the software.
                        Is it 100% proof? No but cmon, it just makes sense.
                        Just because something may seem one way, may not be. Looks can be deceiving, after all...
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                        • Originally posted by Zonex
                          You are leaving out the most damaging evidence. Brian turned over the software.
                          Is it 100% proof? No but cmon, it just makes sense.
                          No, he settled for whatever reasons unknown to the public.

                          A code compare is the "jury" Brian never got, and one no court or other entity can put an injunction on to stop.

                          Just wait and let the coders do their search and let's see the REAL evidence before passing judgement.

                          If Brian is guilty, he'll face the jury of his own peers (which isn't pretty). If he's innocent, then we know who's the real guilty party and they'll face the jury of their peers too (which isn't pretty).

                          That's called: justice.

                          Chris
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                          is not using his intelligence, he is just using his memory."
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                          • Originally posted by Wayne Luke
                            I am currently looking for solutions to completely retool my site as soon as possible.
                            So am I, and hopefully they will come from Jelsoft (SOON!) *hint*hint*

                            Otherwise, I might have to consider IPB... They already have a gallery, blogs, etc.

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                            • The Microsoft / Lindows story

                              I'm not sure if everyone is familiar with the Microsoft/Lindows story, but I'll cut it down to the basic facts.

                              Lindows, a windows-like GUI for Linux, came out a few years back. Well, good old M$ didn't like the fact that they were using the name Lindows, because it sounded too much like Windows. So, M$ sued.

                              Now, any copyright lawyer in the US would know that Lindows did not infringe on Windows, and Lindows thought the same, so they took them up on the fight. And, after several years, Lindows won. BUT, they still changed their name.

                              Why? Because after Microsoft lost the suit in the United States, they filed suit in every other country they were in. They played dirty legal games. Lindows (now Linshare) finally threw in the towel and changed their name because they knew they could not afford to fight Microsoft in every other country in the world.

                              So, yes, there are bullies out there.

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                              • Oh, oh. If they have all that already.

                                Poke, poke....Jelsoft.....JELSOFT....we NEED our CMS/Gallery/ and....!!vBLOG!!....sometime this CENTURY.....poke, poke.

                                You know Christmas is coming....................

                                Chris
                                "Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to Authority
                                is not using his intelligence, he is just using his memory."
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                                Leonardo da Vinci

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