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  • ChrisLM2001
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    Originally posted by Wayne Luke
    Whatever you say... I am pretty much done with any concern about templates, styles, css or HTML. Really never should have tried to get involved in the first place.
    Come on, Wayne. What I'm saying is nothing to the flame fest that goes on elsewhere over some table work. It's so bad now, line a table up with an image tag, and watch the fireworks begin.

    This translates down to everything web designers are doing now. The pressure is so hard to confirm, you'd swear it's the crusades again.

    This isn't personal, never was.

    Chris

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  • Wayne Luke
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    Whatever you say... I am pretty much done with any concern about templates, styles, css or HTML. Really never should have tried to get involved in the first place.

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  • ChrisLM2001
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    Originally posted by Wayne Luke
    The fact that vBulletin.org is not on the latest version immediately has no impact on sales. A large portion of our customers never even visit that site nor do they ever have the need to.

    The fact that the site is available and provides the features it does is more important to the people who visit the site daily than the specific version of vBulletin it is running.
    Takes a look at the template/styles section at vb.org <sigh> (could that be a reason why there's little compliants about vb.org's frontend)?

    Man, do we need that section jumpstarted and kept alive. Sure beats lion dens that hate presentation tables

    Chris

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  • Wayne Luke
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    Originally posted by ChrisLM2001
    Think about it Zachary: if THE vB mod site isn't up-to-date, what the impression would be for a business looking to buy vB for their support forum, and they're told for any additional mods to goto vB.org. He goes there and inquires if the mods and the site itself is updated too, and finds well, the mods might, but vB.org may get around to updating it's site in 5 years. <-- and it's a modder's heaven (the ONE vB site you'd expect to be updated the second the newest version is out).
    The fact that vBulletin.org is not on the latest version immediately has no impact on sales. A large portion of our customers never even visit that site nor do they ever have the need to.

    The fact that the site is available and provides the features it does is more important to the people who visit the site daily than the specific version of vBulletin it is running.

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  • Chris M
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    And as I pointed out to you at vBulletin.org, most people cannot tell the difference between 3.0.x and 3.5.x anyway, as there are very few visual features that distinguish them from the user-end

    Chris

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  • Brad.loo
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    Originally posted by ChrisLM2001
    Think about it Zachary: if THE vB mod site isn't up-to-date, what the impression would be for a business looking to buy vB for their support forum, and they're told for any additional mods to goto vB.org. He goes there and inquires if the mods and the site itself is updated too, and finds well, the mods might, but vB.org may get around to updating it's site in 5 years. <-- and it's a modder's heaven (the ONE vB site you'd expect to be updated the second the newest version is out).

    If vB is that hard to update even for the modders, what's the impression would be for a busy exec who needs to get his forum up, but now doesn't know if it's worth the effort?

    Sorry to be the one to say that, but someone's got to say it, Zach (and not just guard turf. Products stagnant that way).

    Chris
    The modifications behind vBulletin.org aren't something we can just re-code in a short peroid of time.

    Think about it for a second, we have a ton of modifications to port to the plug-in/product system. The main one begin the system we use to verify your license, something that has to work else we will never hear the end of it.

    In addition to this we have multiple styles to port over to 3.5.1, not a simple task when you are coming from the 3.0.x line. We also have a hack database coming along with the update, this is something new and it also 'has to work' and thus requires lots of testing.

    There is no reason to rush an upgrade because at the end of the day it will hurt the end users if we do.

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  • ChrisLM2001
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    Originally posted by MGM
    Good to see bug fixes and a few new additions... I'll be upgrading tomorrow or Thursday and hoping nothing breaks... Especially after spending a week modding and updating styles.

    MGM out
    Went fine here (and it was my first upgrade attempt -- I just love clean installs better).

    Now going to devolve back to 3.0.8, just in case the guy I'm working on his styles for can't/won't upgrade to 3.5.1.

    ADDED:

    Devolve went fine.

    Chris
    Last edited by ChrisLM2001; Tue 1st Nov '05, 10:23pm.

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  • Quillz
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    Just upgraded my board from 3.0.9 to 3.5.1! Worked great.

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  • MGM
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    Good to see bug fixes and a few new additions... I'll be upgrading tomorrow or Thursday and hoping nothing breaks... Especially after spending a week modding and updating styles.

    MGM out

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  • Mayers
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    Originally posted by ChrisLM2001
    Think about it Zachary: if THE vB mod site isn't up-to-date, what the impression would be for a business looking to buy vB for their support forum, and they're told for any additional mods to goto vB.org. He goes there and inquires if the mods and the site itself is updated too, and finds well, the mods might, but vB.org may get around to updating it's site in 5 years. <-- and it's a modder's heaven (the ONE vB site you'd expect to be updated the second the newest version is out).

    If vB is that hard to update even for the modders, what's the impression would be for a busy exec who needs to get his forum up, but now doesn't know if it's worth the effort?

    Sorry to be the one to say that, but someone's got to say it, Zach (and not just guard turf. Products stagnant that way).

    Chris
    Something to keep in mind is vBulletin.org is heavily moded, vB 3.0.x can't do all the things vb.org does on it's own. They can't just upgrade at the drop of a dime, it takes time to do that. You'll notice this with all heavily moded forums, not just vBulletin. They will upgrade it when they have time and after a few test runs.

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  • ChrisLM2001
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    I know I stepped on a sacred cow, but it needed to be said. If I didn't I wouldn't be honest (want only "yes men" or "go team, go team" replies? I'm not that type).

    Chris

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  • Andrew111888
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    Originally posted by ChrisLM2001
    Think about it Zachary: if THE vB mod site isn't up-to-date, what the impression would be for a business looking to buy vB for their support forum, and they're told for any additional mods to goto vB.org. He goes there and inquires if the mods and the site itself is updated too, and finds well, the mods might, but vB.org may get around to updating it's site in 5 years. <-- and it's a modder's heaven (the ONE vB site you'd expect to be updated the second the newest version is out).

    If vB is that hard to update even for the modders, what's the impression would be for a busy exec who needs to get his forum up, but now doesn't know if it's worth the effort?

    Sorry to be the one to say that, but someone's got to say it, Zach (and not just guard turf. Products stagnant that way).

    Chris
    I guess of Erwin, Xenon, and the rest of the staff over at vB.org should of course drop all real-life responsibilities and spend all of their time upgrading vBulletin.org to the latest version of vBulletin as soon as possible. Forget making sure everything works correctly.

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  • xjuliox
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    Just finished upgrading my board. Everytime went really smooth and very easy to do too.

    THUMBS UP JELSOFT

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  • Vtec44
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    No one should be complaining about losing their hacks now, eh?

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  • Hooper
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    Just fantastic. Another release.

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