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  • wajones
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    Originally posted by rin
    kiddy porn? you guys are funny.
    I think you should be banned just for your avatar, everyone knows what's on your sicko mind.

    Take a look here at what the US can even do to Heads of State. They won't kidnap you for trial. But the American Marines will "Rescue" you.

    http://www.mugshots.org/misc/manuel-noriega.html

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  • patriotcow
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    Originally posted by LEAD_WEIGHT
    Do you know that you have to live on that island, to be protected from international law or do you know even what it means with the law of the land. If you live in North America or most places with such laws just having your information on a server over seas will not protect you from prosecution. Go ahead and try to find out for yourself.
    I'll just set my domain address as that islands but I don't even want to have my servers on that metal thing.. in nitrogen

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  • Jose Amaral Rego
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    Originally posted by patriotcow
    I could do with using them but the prices are crazy and its only 512k speed.
    Do you know that you have to live on that island, to be protected from international law or do you know even what it means with the law of the land. If you live in North America or most places with such laws just having your information on a server over seas will not protect you from prosecution. Go ahead and try to find out for yourself.

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  • patriotcow
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    Originally posted by Martz
    Check out HavenCo you can host anything with them, apart from child pr0n or to send spam. They are hosted on a small island off the UK (Sealand) which is a de-facto sovereign nation and not covered by International law.

    You could quite happily host warez or adult content which isn't allowed anywhere else in the modern world.

    More info about HavenCo at Wikipedia
    I could do with using them but the prices are crazy and its only 512k speed.

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  • Jose Amaral Rego
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    Originally posted by Zonex
    If you think his signatures meaning is a pre-teen girl selling sex, you can at least ***** about it. Guess thats all we can do.
    Nothing wrong with images as is, it is where the image signature links to implies their is child porn?? Nope! that would be an assumption on my part since I already viewed rin's hidden forum and those are more quality shots of girls then what you find here in the USA. Those photo's are suited to be viewed by anyone, unlike most that is on the web.
    The only objection is the images that rin is using for signature & avatar? That is it? Rin;s site is clean so far and the image of the girls in the hidden forum are those of 18yrs old so far. I can not say enough of this but that avtar & signature has to change to more adult person cause of the link?

    Like I said before I went to rin's site before when he had a anime pic so I thought it was relating to drawing and was wrong. Warning and change the signature would be find with me. This is up to vBulletin in what is offensive. Got to stay away from this topic .

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  • Zonex
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    If you think his signatures meaning is a pre-teen girl selling sex, you can at least ***** about it. Guess thats all we can do.

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  • someuser190826
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    Originally posted by LEAD_WEIGHT
    He went to China, so it leads me to believe that he is from Hong Kong, China or from the USA and does not say when he will be back?


    Germany has strict rules on child porn, but not the so call modeling pictures of young girls in tight, loose clothing or poses.


    So far they are much clean and more on the professional side of modeling, not like what is shown in USA preteen model sites which if you can see them, you have to tell your ISP to remove them if they depict children in sexual poses. Rin should not be showning non-adult content in adult forum, bt then it is rin's forum and rin's members. We do not have a right to tell him what he can or can not post within his site, only Law can do that.
    Like Lead said, even though it is against the law, we don't really have the power to outright do anything directly...why waste your energy with useless assumptions when you can take it to the proper authorities?

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  • Jose Amaral Rego
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    Originally posted by Nemon
    Judging by this topic and its replys it lured just about everyone Not surprising really tho.

    All this can be cleared up if rin cares to say what material "might" be considerd obscene?
    He went to China, so it leads me to believe that he is from Hong Kong, China or from the USA and does not say when he will be back?

    Originally posted by Nemon
    Rins sig on his site is in German? which would make his post mentioning German servers more valid. I wasn't aware that Germany allows the hosting of child porn and so this further makes me beleive its something war related, that and the fact someone was allegedly arrested for "obscene pictures" of dead insurgents recently in Florida. This has nothing todo with his sig ofcourse but i think it is relevent to speculating that he wants to host child porn.
    Germany has strict rules on child porn, but not the so call modeling pictures of young girls in tight, loose clothing or poses.
    Originally posted by Nemon
    All we have is an asian girl in a sig and for that he is accused of being a paedo, which i can both understand and yet deeply dislike.

    Edit: ummm. I was skimming accross the site when i read a news post about a "junior" section, i followed instructions and they have a hidden forum that has pic of underage kids. They apear to have some rules on what sort of pix are posted i.e nothing sexually provocative (read, nothing illegal) but this is the point i step off this discussion. Having part of a site dedicated to pics of kids, even if they are non-sexual is not something i can even understand.
    So far they are much clean and more on the professional side of modeling, not like what is shown in USA preteen model sites which if you can see them, you have to tell your ISP to remove them if they depict children in sexual poses. Rin should not be showning non-adult content in adult forum, bt then it is rin's forum and rin's members. We do not have a right to tell him what he can or can not post within his site, only Law can do that.

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  • MGM
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    Originally posted by Zonex
    MGM, quit assuming that he doesn't plan on opening a kiddie porn site.
    I mean really, why do you persist? Stop it already!

    Like how I can order you around also?
    You ignored everything else I said. Sure, I'm making assumptions. But at least my assumptions don't try to put a person down for something I'm not even sure about...

    MGM out

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  • Zonex
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    That's covered by the FCC. Don't think its law based. More like you have to get an FCC license to broadcast TV and in doing so you enter into an agreement. They can fine you or revoke your license to transmit.
    It just like the FAA with airlines.

    As far as copyrights, there's an international treaty called WIPO..world intellectual propery org or something. Many countries have yet to ratify it. That's where that comes into play...US copyright laws respected on foreign soil. Theres a couple of other things that I cant recall right now that affect that. I think one is the WTO...world trade association.

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  • Vtec44
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    I believe the law regarding obsenity applies to TV, not the Internet. However, if you break certain laws, ie copyright violation, there have been many cases where they arrested and charged people under US laws, given that the country of origin has some sort of agreement with the US government.

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  • someuser190826
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    Originally posted by Zonex
    lead u are presuming this has something to do with religion
    you have stated so twice

    im an athiest
    btw, canada has even stronger laws
    Canada does actually have intense laws in regards to child pornography. Very strict about it. I know here in Ontario there are many raids that happen just on this very topic.

    I, myself, saw this thread and formed my assumptions, but coming straight out and labeling a person something isn't in my nature till I am 120% solid. If Rin does come by and clear this up, I am sure this can get back to being more productive in regards to the original topic.

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  • Zonex
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    MGM, quit assuming that he doesn't plan on opening a kiddie porn site.
    I mean really, why do you persist? Stop it already!

    Like how I can order you around also?

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  • MGM
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    Originally posted by Colin F
    Zonex,

    Didn't the US introduce some kind of law that says you're not allowed to have any pictures of naked people without all the paperwork giving you allowance and so on?

    Not to say that this is what rin is planning to do, but couldn't it just as well be this, or anything else for that matter, instead of child pornography?
    That was my first thought. His site basically revolves around people posting pics of cute asians, etc. Some of them are naked. If he had to find paperwork for each one, his site could die. But if he decided to move his server to a different country, etc. then his site could survive.

    Another reason would be maybe he wants to start a warez site? I mean, I'm not condoning warez sites but those are illegal in the US and are NOT a pedophile site. Zonex, quit assuming, he himself has already stated that it is not a kiddy porn site, so why do you persist?

    And I quote:

    Originally posted by rin
    kiddy porn? you guys are funny.
    Originally posted by rin
    but they might have a different approach to what is obscene, and what is not. and i am not speaking of porn here. i know the us likes to "porn" many things.
    Originally posted by rin
    untrue.
    Each time he said it is not porn or kiddy porn related. So quit assuming things when you know absolutely nothing about what kind of site he wants to start.

    MGM out

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  • MrVain
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    @rin: I'd watch it if i was you, they'll prolly raid your house with a fake warrant for W.O.M.D(Weapons of Mass Destruction)

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