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  • #31
    Originally posted by LEAD_WEIGHT
    Rin, your avatar & signature is misleading to alot of people. They will enter your site and see adult content and you are using picture of what could be an underage child. I know that not everyone is over 18/21 to view your site and may intice people under that age to view your site without knowing.
    Its not misleading. They are what they are. His signature is a girl that is no older than 10 in some sort of "sexy" pose. If you cant see that you're blind.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Zonex
      Its not misleading. They are what they are. His signature is a girl that is no older than 10 in some sort of "sexy" pose. If you cant see that you're blind.
      What Religion/Amish/Hutterian/Minanites do you follow to think that is a sexy pose? Do not go to swimming pools or you will go blind yourself.

      Plus if you did not know what his site was, it is misleading to all.

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      • #33
        lead u are presuming this has something to do with religion
        you have stated so twice

        im an athiest
        btw, canada has even stronger laws

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        • #34
          This thread won't have a good ending

          rin, maybe you could give us a bit more detail about what you're expecting to have that will be 'obscene', which will allow us to help you in a better way.
          Best Regards
          Colin Frei

          Please don't contact me per PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Zonex
            lead u are presuming this has something to do with religion
            you have stated so twice

            im an athiest
            btw, canada has even stronger laws
            People with religious or strong upbring hence [ Amish/Hutterian/Minanites ] is what I was wondering about you? The other post was about larger groups have influence on media. As for Canada, no they do not. Life in prison is 25yrs only and you need to be convicted as a dangerous offender to be in jail for natural life and that does not happen often.

            *EDIT ADDED
            Just was wondering why would it be sexy pose? Is it that rin was talking about material that might be in poor taste?
            Last edited by Jose Amaral Rego; Thu 13th Oct '05, 12:22am.

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            • #36
              If you had read that other site the guy was arrested for showing pics of dead insurgents and he was arrested because it was "obscene material". For all you know he might be wanting to start a gore site and host similar pictures.

              I admit the sig is somewhat unnerving, but hell, there is nothing illegal about it and i can't condone attacking and slinging accusations at someone when they've technically not done anything wrong other than shock and scare ppl by using a controversial sig.

              I guess i am torn between understanding why people would assume the worst when seeing that sig and the fact i respect what i consider other peoples rights to like what they want as long as they don't cause harm.

              You know it might be some statment, using a deliberalty contraversial sig and av like that and just watch people tear each other up over what really amounts to nothing. Anyone in their right mind knows what everyone's going to fear when they see something like that and yet he used it anyway!

              I've not posted here i quite a while but issues of repression, forcing moral ideals on others and what i perceive to be some craptacular US policy and action as of late trigger me to post now. Hell, in florida (the place the guy who was arrested for gore pics) its not even legal to have oral sex, so i certainly wouldn't want anyone enforcing US laws where i live

              Anyway, i like cute asian chicks so i love the site. I dont like the sig tho, but w/e.

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              • #37
                You misunderstand US laws. There are state laws, local laws and federal laws. Theres all kinds of wacko old state laws still in the books.
                Those are not US laws per say. Federal laws is what we are talking about...passed by the federal government.
                The federal government deals with laws that cross state borders and stuff like that. Hell there's some counties where you can't even sell a beer. That's not a US law though.

                As I said, the only US law dealing with porn has to do with child porn. He asked about the US not being able to get to him with his NEW site. His current site is fine. I like it also.

                His signature has a pre-teen girl that links to a site devoted to adult material. C'mon!!!
                I like the site but dont like the use a pre-teen girl for what it depicts and using it to link.
                Last edited by Zonex; Thu 13th Oct '05, 12:53am.

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                • #38
                  The Avatar & Signature is not the problem here, it is where it leads too is not appropriate to use those images. It is like giving balloon condoms in a circus full of kids.

                  As for that person getting charge for quote "obscene material", get a good lawyer and fight it out since news shows the same pictures on T.V.

                  Can not sell Beer? Most likely an Muslim Country that has not modernize.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by LEAD_WEIGHT
                    Can not sell Beer? Most likely an Muslim Country that has not modernize.
                    Counties
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_county

                    Cites -> Counties -> States -> US
                    All have laws

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by LEAD_WEIGHT
                      The Avatar & Signature is not the problem here, it is where it leads too is not appropriate to use those images. It is like giving balloon condoms in a circus full of kids.
                      Yea i agree with that 100% and i agree it could lure kids in. So, i dont think something like that is appropriate here.

                      Brings me to another point, if kids are on the net unsupervised then they've already seen more things than their parents could ever dream of and its the parents responcibility to protect their own kids. I personally don't think kids under 13 should be unsupervised on the net, and i don't see a problem with that either. Parents should look after their kids, bring them up the way they want and not expect the rest of the planet to play nanny or share their ideals.

                      You misunderstand US laws. There are state laws, local laws and federal laws. Theres all kinds of wacko old state laws still in the books.
                      I knew there were different jurisdictions but didn't know anything besides that, but i'm sure you knew i was joking with that comment.

                      I was about to argue that a countrys law doesn't reach outside its borders, but im not actualy sure. I guess it depends on where you live, your countrys laws and the laws where the material is hosted. If it's legal in your country, the servers country then i fail to see how someone visiting from outside those locations could do anything atall when you've broken no laws.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Zonex
                        Counties
                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_county

                        Cites -> Counties -> States -> US
                        All have laws
                        Dam, it is hard to be a redneck in the USA. What about native land, unless a problem but I do not think perm.? I know that you have laws in the books that date back 200yrs in some towns.
                        Canada has one that should be removed, the Master and Servant which make all Employer's allow to make you do anything they ask of you, even if it is not your job title. ex: You are a phone clerk and your manager ask you to clean toilets as your new job or add other people job's and ask you to finish them. You have no choice but to do them or leave.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Nemon
                          it could lure kids in.
                          i dont think he wants to lure kids in
                          it lures pedophiles

                          i guess children visiting this site might click on it though

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Zonex
                            i dont think he wants to lure kids in
                            it lures pedophiles

                            i guess children visiting this site might click on it though
                            I do not think that is rin's intention but this is his last signature image? I also got lured in thinking it had to do with drawing anime
                            Last edited by Jose Amaral Rego; Sun 9th Dec '07, 10:18pm.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Zonex
                              i dont think he wants to lure kids in
                              it lures pedophiles

                              i guess children visiting this site might click on it though
                              Judging by this topic and its replys it lured just about everyone Not surprising really tho.

                              All this can be cleared up if rin cares to say what material "might" be considerd obscene?

                              Rins sig on his site is in German? which would make his post mentioning German servers more valid. I wasn't aware that Germany allows the hosting of child porn and so this further makes me beleive its something war related, that and the fact someone was allegedly arrested for "obscene pictures" of dead insurgents recently in Florida. This has nothing todo with his sig ofcourse but i think it is relevent to speculating that he wants to host child porn.

                              All we have is an asian girl in a sig and for that he is accused of being a paedo, which i can both understand and yet deeply dislike.

                              Edit: ummm. I was skimming accross the site when i read a news post about a "junior" section, i followed instructions and they have a hidden forum that has pic of underage kids. They apear to have some rules on what sort of pix are posted i.e nothing sexually provocative (read, nothing illegal) but this is the point i step off this discussion. Having part of a site dedicated to pics of kids, even if they are non-sexual is not something i can even understand.
                              Last edited by Nemon; Thu 13th Oct '05, 2:54am.

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                              • #45
                                If his intention are a pedo site, he's not going to admit to it
                                It's all circumstantial but all the evidence points to it

                                I will lay it out again...
                                1. He states that he is going to open a new website that US laws may consider obscene.
                                2. The only US law that touches obscenity is child porn.

                                Therefore that must be what his site will be about.

                                Other factors.
                                He currently has a fully legal site with legal age girls either naked or sexually suggestive.
                                His avatar is of a girl with a school girl outfit.
                                His signature that links to his adult oriented site shows a pre-teen in a sexual fashion.

                                Conclusion: He wants to push the envelope as they say by going younger.

                                Him denying it may work for some of you but not for me. Sorry

                                OK, i'm done beating this dead horse. Just open your eyes!

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