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  • How do you deal with post padders?

    I've been a little anal with users who create a thread and reply to it a dozen times just to push them over the minimum they need to make their own custom user title. Am I right to delete their posts and demote them back to newbie?

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    that's just people working the system. I have learned to accept that any restrictions I implement can be over come by some one who wants to do so. As a result my forums are pretty loose in the restrictions I have set. I allow everyone to use custom titles, use avatars, search, etc. The only restriction I have is a couple of static IP bans for peeps that kept posting porn and pointless slanders towards others on my forums. Well, I should clarify the custom title thing. I don't allow custom titles, but I have an extra info field that people can fill in that acts as a custom title. This way under a person's name it will say something like:

    Jakeman
    Web Monkey
    Admin

    (that's mine, anyways) This way you always know what a person's function is on my forums.

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    • #3
      This is why we should have a ratings system instead. Individual posts (rather than people) can be voted on, like Slashdot. Then viewers can decide in their preferences what kind of posts they'd like to view. Also, each vote should then be tallied into that person's overall credit.

      Doing the above would make junk posts useless in terms of building up one's rating. In fact, it may even decrease it.
      Well, there it is.
      - Keeper of the Grove

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Skeptical
        This is why we should have a ratings system instead. Individual posts (rather than people) can be voted on, like Slashdot. Then viewers can decide in their preferences what kind of posts they'd like to view. Also, each vote should then be tallied into that person's overall credit.

        Doing the above would make junk posts useless in terms of building up one's rating. In fact, it may even decrease it.
        Boy that seems awfully familliar... :Points to his forums:
        Matt
        Sybase DBA / PHP fanatic
        Sybase v. MySQL v. Oracle | Why I don't like MySQL | Download Sybase TODAY! | Visit DBForums.com!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mrogish


          Boy that seems awfully familliar... :Points to his forums:
          I just went over to your forum and saw the ratings feature. Very cool! How does it work in your forum?
          Well, there it is.
          - Keeper of the Grove

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Skeptical


            I just went over to your forum and saw the ratings feature. Very cool! How does it work in your forum?
            We've had the post / thread ratings up since FanHome launched in January. It has been met with mixed results, with about 2,000 non-unique votes have been cast for posts and a little more for threads.

            Basically each user has a rating stored in the DB which is, to some extent, influenced by the rating of posts. If they have a significant number of posts rated + by a large number of people then their rating goes up quite a bit. If a single person rates their post "+" then they get a point (or a fraction depending on some math). Down or - ratings aren't weighted at all, so every down vote is a fraction vs. a large amount (to discourage people from stuffing the ballot box in the negative).

            Those are formed to generate a "star" rating for each thread (now copied by vB LOL ).

            Per the documentation (which I didn't write):
            What Happens When You Rate a Post or Topic?
            When you rate a post or topic, we combine this with ratings from others and a special "trust" weighting determined by your own history, user status and previously rated posts on the board. All of this information is mixed together through a variety of algorithms to create the Topic Ratings which you see displayed next to every topic as a 1-5 Stars.
            Basically like I said, vote + the stars go up, vote - they go down. Same with the thread rating, but instead of a 1 - 5 value it gets weighted with the user rating, so a user that is highly rated has a bigger rating and therefor a 5 from them goes further than a 5 from a new user with no rating (well, the default rating).

            The ratings are used to determine "top" topics on the fanhome front pages, and in the user profile you can set a threashold of stars to hide threads with lower than X stars rating.
            Matt
            Sybase DBA / PHP fanatic
            Sybase v. MySQL v. Oracle | Why I don't like MySQL | Download Sybase TODAY! | Visit DBForums.com!

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            • #7
              Very nice. The only thing you need now is a way to limit the display of junk posts. Slashdot does this very effectively. What they do is allow a user to set the minimum rating of posts that they'd like to see. Suppose a post (not a user) is rated -1 overall and user Jason sets in his preference that he'd like to view only posts with 1+ rating, he wouldn't see this -1 post.

              The above would be GREAT for sites that generate thousands of new posts per day. Don't you hate it when you visit a forum and 3 pages of "new" light bulbs pop up? Just can't read them all. I love going over to the forum at counter-strike.net, but if it's a real mess every time and I hate it.
              Well, there it is.
              - Keeper of the Grove

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              • #8
                I've split out new posts and replies on my forum. Only new posts count towards any status.

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                • #9
                  How about this?

                  I am an administrator at http://www.ls1.com. I have altered 2 tables in my MySql database to allow for negative post counts. And in the control panel I have set up a new status called "Free Post Abuser" which is for post counts -1000 to 0.

                  Free post abusers are given -1000 post count.

                  Here are the mysql commands I issued to allow for negative post counts:

                  alter table user modify posts smallint(5) DEFAULT 0 NOT NULL;

                  alter table usertitle modify minposts smallint(5);

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                  • #10
                    Re: How do you deal with post padders?

                    Originally posted by irc
                    I've been a little anal with users who create a thread and reply to it a dozen times just to push them over the minimum they need to make their own custom user title. Am I right to delete their posts and demote them back to newbie?
                    Yes, I hate that and will not tolerate it either.

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