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**wandrer** · Sun 25 Jun '00, 6:44am

Back-End

Features
The administrator has the ability to:

Add/Edit/Delete Users (Normal User or Banner User)
Add/Edit/Delete Banners
Add/Edit/Delete News
Add/Edit/Delete Links
Add/Edit/Delete All Articles
Add/Edit/Delete Article Sections (new Article Pages)
[Physically] Create a new article page by pushing a button.
Add/Edit/Delete Link Categories

A normal User has the ability to:

Add/Edit/Delete their Articles
(which they get credited for)

A Banner user has the ability to:

View their banner statisitics

http://back-end.org

**Username** · Sun 25 Jun '00, 6:47am

Re: PHP Programmer - Get 1 to 2 MILLION advertising impressions!!!

Originally posted by webdevhq
If you can get the scripts done in 3-5 days, you WILL have the job as long as you contact me first.

I know I'm new at PHP/MySQL, but, it seems to me that if you can get all of this done in 3-5 days (without bugs) you should also be able to walk on water...am I missing something?

**webdevhq** · Sun 25 Jun '00, 6:49am

How about a week

Does a week sound better? I really don't know...

**Bealers** · Mon 26 Jun '00, 3:03am

Hi Matt

I was writing something like you want some time back to enable me to maintain 4/5 sites that were taking me every spare moment I had just to keep fresh.

I gave up because the task became too huge to juggle my time with a 'proper' job, however the code still exists and has been resurected in a much watered down form by the recent release of back-end.org

It's not all that (only been out 3 weeks) and I don't think that it is what you want, however what you require is exactly what back-end _will_ become over the next 6-12 months.

Anyway, speil over, in my professional capacity (php developer by day) what you require is weeks of work, not days...full stop
Kludges and fudges might help, but it sounds like you need a full-on CMS, esp if your claims of hits is true :|

Contact me on or offlist if you think I might be able to help

Regards

Darren Beale
[email protected]

**NgtCrwlr** · Fri 30 Jun '00, 9:49pm

Messin around with Back-End

Bealers - Back-End looks promising... I'd like to hook up with you when you get back to working on the project.

We use DBMan to run flat file news DB's for our site. With 6000 records we've outgrown them (Perl - heavy resource) and have been looking for a PHP/SQL replacement. Back-End has promise, but I don't want to spend much time on it if you won't be available to help.

If I could get backed to do what we can do with our DBMan flat file DB without too much hassle that would be sweet.

Here is an example of how our current system works. The first link is for Admin functions only, the second link is what the visitor interacts with.

http://www.makeitsimple.com/cgi-bin/...nions/opin.cgi

Opinion's Demo DB

These links are to a demo DB that is not part of our site, if anyone wants to play with the Admin side feel free.

Login: demo
Password: demo

I spent an evening playing with Back-End and here's what I have so far.

http://www.mis-forums.com/index.php

I haven't had time to remove the frames layout for the admin side of Back-End. Bealers, I'd really like to see admin totally separate from the front end. The two intertwined together makes controlling the layout much harder. Just a thought.

Anyone else that has PHP/SQL experience that's interested in working together... jump on in. Maybe if we get a group together we could all work on different parts of this and make a killer site manager. Back-End sure looks like a good place to start.

OR maybe a hacked vB in combination with Back-End?

The mind never stops!

Cheers!

**Bealers** · Sat 1 Jul '00, 2:15am

Mr Crwlr (Larry?) Hi

>>Bealers - Back-End looks promising... I'd like to hook up with you when you get back to working on the project.

Man, jump aboard

I had a look @ your admin interface and it looks pretty cool, having no experience with DB man, I can't tell if you've modified it in anyway, but I think I'm right in assuming that it allows you to add some news articles?

>>I'd really like to see admin totally separate from the front end. The two intertwined together makes controlling the layout much harder. Just a thought.

I'm working on this today, I'm gonna get shot of the frames and create new html headers/footers for admin, I agree it's an arse having the front/back-end's both using the same html_header()

>> Back-End has promise, but I don't want to spend much time on it if you won't be available to help.

Thanks, well I work during the day and I also have some other projects) but Back-end is my baby and there is no way that I won't be developing it for the foreseeable. As I mentioned in a earlier post, I've tons of code that I want to integrate into Back-end, but for the immediate term I want to get people using it and giving feedback (like you are) to make the 'simple' version useful..Then we'll have a firm foundation to work off...otherwise I'll just be adding bits that I assume are useful rather than what other webmasters _actually_ want..dig?

So, answering your question, I'm always going to be available to 'help' but I would much rather it was a team effort so that the growing back-end community (550 downloads it the month since launch) get to see the improvements and different people are not rushing off and doing their own thing and we then have to come back and make a releasable version.

Formalising this, why don't you contact me (via our mailing list?) with a list of things that you see need changing to the app and then I can respond with the list of things that I plan todo in the short term (this will also help me put the TODO up on the site as I keep meaning to

We can then maybe move forward on this together and bring a few people along for the ride?

let me know what you think

cheers

**NgtCrwlr** · Sat 1 Jul '00, 3:05am

I'm on my way to the e-mail list

Sounds like a plan to me. I am devoting almost all of my time to making our site as much as possible dynamic PHP/SQL. So this sounds great to me.

Our DBMan is very hacked... I spent *way* to much time on it. It's really nice, but being Perl and flat file based I ran into too many road blocks in using it for articles and reviews. It has worked well for our hardware/tech headline DB which has no text just links and categories. This kept the flat file DB manageable, however, once we went over 5000 records it started to fall apart at the seams.

I think in the beginning it would be a good idea to focus on making Back-End work well as a site news manager. I have seen countless posts from people (myself included) looking for a good PHP/SQL solution for updating site news into a searchable DB. I'm thinking of Back-End modules like news, articles/reviews, static content generator, etc. A lot of the work that would go into the news module should be re-usable in the other modules. I would think this to be a much easier task to handle than trying to get Back-End to do it all from the get go.

Ahhhh I'll quite rambling and head off to the e-mail list.

This sounds like a fun project, I *hate* working alone

**Stallion** · Sat 1 Jul '00, 7:37pm

Just thought I'd chime in

I just picked up Back-End a few days ago, but it kicks ass. It fit the latest site I'm working on _perfectly_, and I'm thrilled it was just made available.

However, I'm simply using the admin section, and doing all my own php/mysql for the user end...

The sample frontend code seems to crowded and integrated for me to make much use of...

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