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    tubedogg
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  • tubedogg
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    Originally posted by Grumble
    Mudslinging yes, thats justified but this? http://www.ubbdev.com/ubbcgi/ultimat...&f=10&t=000729

    I dont think so, that is just blatant supression of discussion to me.
    http://www.ubbdev.com/ubbcgi/ultimat...&f=10&t=000731

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  • JustMe-old
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  • JustMe-old
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    I agree

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  • wert
    Senior Member

  • wert
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    sharing the pain...

    My site's on VDI also so I'm suffering along with the rest of you. My host is trying to stick it out with VDI until at least the end of the month, but if it doesn't improve, they will switchover to someone else for sure...

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  • Matt@ikonboard
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    Thanks Chris

    I guess it's the luck of the draw. I'm in the UK and access times are actually pretty good surprisingly. It's definately improved now we're on a beefier server. a broken server running on a broken network isn't much fun.

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  • Chris Schreiber
    Senior Member

  • Chris Schreiber
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    Matt-

    I actually had some better results connecting to your site, although I too have had some problems with connecting to VDI based sites as well.

    Code:
    ==================================================
    === VisualRoute report on 17-Apr-01 1:22:46 PM ===
    ==================================================
    
    Report for [url]www.ikonboard.com[/url] [216.74.123.126]
    
    Analysis: 'www.ikonboard.com' was found in 16 hops (TTL=242). It is a HTTP server (running Apache/1.3.17 (Unix) 
    mod_bwlimited/0.8 PHP/4.0.4pl1 mod_log_bytes/0.2 mod_frontpage/3.0.4.3 mod_ssl/2.8.0 OpenSSL/0.9.6). 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    | Hop | %Loss | IP Address      | Node Name                       | Location              | Tzone  | ms | Graph      | Network                  |
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    | 0   |       | 65.9.***.***    | **********                      | *                     |        |    |            | @Home Network            |
    | 1   |       | 10.73.66.1      | -                               | ...                   |        | 34 |  --x---    | (private use)            |
    | 2   |       | 24.18.63.113    | r1-fe1-0.jamison1.pa.home.net   | ?---                  |        | 18 |  x-----    | @Home Network            |
    | 3   |       | 24.2.5.1        | r1-ge5-0.wyn1.pa.home.net       | ?---                  |        | 10 |  x---      | @Home Network            |
    | 4   |       | 10.103.84.1     | -                               | ...                   |        | 18 |  x------   | (private use)            |
    | 5   |       | 24.7.74.57      | c1-pos4-0.phlapa1.home.net      | Philadelphia, PA, USA |   -5.0 | 19 |  x---      | @Home Network            |
    | 6   |       | 24.7.65.225     | c1-pos6-0.cmdnnj1.home.net      | Camden, NJ, USA       |   -5.0 | 25 |  -x------- | @Home Network            |
    | 7   |       | 24.7.65.85      | c1-pos1-0.washdc1.home.net      | Washington, DC, USA   |   -5.0 | 26 |  -x-----   | @Home Network            |
    | 8   |       | 137.39.52.37    | ATM2-0.BR3.DCA8.ALTER.NET       | Washington, DC, USA   |   -5.0 | 26 |  -x-----   | UUNET Technologies, Inc. |
    | 9   |       | 152.63.36.6     | 0.so-4-1-0.XR1.DCA8.ALTER.NET   | Washington, DC, USA   |   -5.0 | 17 |  x----     | UUNET Technologies, Inc. |
    | 10  |       | 152.63.144.49   | 0.so-3-0-0.TR1.DCA8.ALTER.NET   | Washington, DC, USA   |   -5.0 | 20 |  -x-----   | UUNET Technologies, Inc. |
    | 11  |       | 146.188.141.186 | 115.at-6-0-0.TR1.NYC8.ALTER.NET | New York, NY, USA     |   -5.0 | 41 |   --x---   | UUNET PIPEX              |
    | 12  |       | 152.63.19.185   | 185.at-1-0-0.XR1.NYC8.ALTER.NET | New York, NY, USA     |   -5.0 | 27 |   x------  | UUNET Technologies, Inc. |
    | 13  |       | 152.63.18.169   | 183.ATM6-0.GW3.NYC8.ALTER.NET   | New York, NY, USA     |   -5.0 | 39 |   -x----   | UUNET Technologies, Inc. |
    | 14  |       | 157.130.59.14   | vdi-nyc-gw.customer.alter.net   | New York, NY, USA     |   -5.0 | 27 |   x------  | UUNET Technologies, Inc. |
    | 15  |       | 216.74.127.226  | vlan2.aggr1.cftnnj.inet.vdi.net | ?Clifton, NJ 07003    |        | 27 |   x--      | VDI                      |
    | 16  |       | 216.74.123.126  | [url]www.ikonboard.com[/url]               | ?Clifton, NJ 07003    |        | 25 |   x---     | VDI                      |
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Roundtrip time to [url]www.ikonboard.com,[/url] average = 25ms, min = 20ms, max = 50ms -- 17-Apr-01 1:22:46 PM

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  • Matt@ikonboard
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    Thanks Wert!

    Man that sucks... but I had a feeling it was that bad. Still, it's an improvement over a few weeks ago when VDI's router went down. We got about 14 hours downtime along with about 1/2 million other sites.

    They claim to be working on it, although it's going to be months until it's back to being close to 'good' again.

    There's not much that I or VenturesOnline can do. I'm backing VO's decision to stay with VDI and ride out the storm. IMHO it's better the devil you know...

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  • wert
    Senior Member

  • wert
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    Originally posted by [email protected]

    Something is seriously wrong if it takes 20-30 seconds to view a topic.
    Ok, I just ran several traceroutes and VDI is killing you! You are getting an average packet loss of about 20% from here and it sometimes goes up to 40%! Here's the traceroute if you're interested. I clipped out the good stuff and left the last two problem hops.
    _____________________________________________

    Report for www.ikonboard.com [216.74.123.126]

    Analysis: 'www.ikonboard.com' was found in 13 hops (TTL=241). But, problems starting at hop 12 in network "VDI" are causing IP packets to be
    dropped.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    | Hop | %Loss | IP Address | Node Name | Location | Tzone | ms | Graph | Network |
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | New York, NY, USA | -5.0 | 790 | -x--- | UUNET Technologies, Inc. |
    | 12 | 10 | 216.74.127.226 | vlan2.aggr1.cftnnj.inet.vdi.net | ?Clifton, NJ 07003 | | 678 | -x--- | VDI |
    | 13 | 10 | 216.74.123.126 | www.ikonboard.com | ?Clifton, NJ 07003 | | 635 | -x---- | VDI |
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Roundtrip time to www.ikonboard.com, average = 635ms, min = 496ms, max = 1150ms -- 17-Apr-01 10:13:47 AM

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  • JohnM
    Senior Member

  • JohnM
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    There are rules at ubbdev about what threads we are supposed to close.

    Note - the reason I'm a mod there is because I used to be an admin there when it was ubbcodehacking and I knew a lot of people, and Allen (the admin) made a ServerSideScripting forum which was mainly for the two languages I knew, so I volunteered.

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  • Freddie Bingham
    Former vBulletin Developer

  • Freddie Bingham
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    You could ask JohnM on here about that thread since he is around here also. Quite the jack of all trades when it comes to different forum systems, you seem to find him everywhere.

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  • Grumble
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    Mudslinging yes, thats justified but this? http://www.ubbdev.com/ubbcgi/ultimat...&f=10&t=000729

    I dont think so, that is just blatant supression of discussion to me.



    Anyway forget it. I wouldnt want to be responsible for getting THIS thread closed.......

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  • Matt@ikonboard
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    Slinging 'mud' at other competing products will get your thread closed, and rightly so.

    vBulletin seem to let constructive discussions about other forum software continue because they are secure in the knowledge that vB is the leader in the market. Nearly every feature request we get at iB has '..because vB has it' tacked on the end.

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  • Grumble
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    [sorry to divulge from the point a little]


    Has anyone noticed how a thread of this nature would be impossible at either Infopop or Ubbdev? Eventhe loosest connection of a topic to another BB maker will result in the thread being closed over at Ubbdev and the same thing at infopop would probably result in the thread being closed, deleted and the person who posted it permanantly banned.


    And the main reason for this is usually because they always seem to turn into arguments about how much UBB sucks arse. Now whether or not it actually does is besides the point but you'd think a company that likes to paint itself as being superior to all the competion would take note of the complaints instead of burying its head in the sand.......

    Anyways bugger it all..... Ubb was great and it isnt anymore. Long live vb!
    Last edited by Grumble; Mon 16 Apr '01, 3:01pm.

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  • chrispadfield
    Senior Member

  • chrispadfield
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    that is impressive, looks good. Eva being on VO, yes that is why i compared you two

    Looking forward to a release version and mysql class as well...

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  • Matt@ikonboard
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    Wert, It's not running under mod_perl at the moment, although I hope to persaude Paul and Dan to install it for me.

    We've just been moved to a dedicated VO server - probably the same type as Eva's without the RAM upgrade (Eva is on a VO server too AFAIK).

    Perl and PHP are affected in the same way by server faults, so it shouldn't be a deciding factor.

    Stallion, thanks for the speed check.

    I've got a faster version of iB running locally, the version on the support board still has some 'glue' code, this code is used to bridge areas where features are missing, as a result the compiler has to reload modules that it shouldn't need too.

    Typical server loads run at about .20 with about 120 - 160 members online.

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  • chrispadfield
    Senior Member

  • chrispadfield
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    Stallion, what happened to your open topic site?

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