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    James Kojiro
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  • James Kojiro
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    Yep. My X-Box currently runs Linux and also I store my game saves on the HDD.

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  • John Campbell
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  • John Campbell
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    Originally posted by chrispadfield
    What are the legit reasons for modifing an x-box? The main one I can imagine is remove any stupid DVD region lock. Would doing that stop x box live?
    You can do way more than that to a xbox.

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  • Mike Warner
    Senior Member

  • Mike Warner
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    Originally posted by chrispadfield
    What are the legit reasons for modifing an x-box? The main one I can imagine is remove any stupid DVD region lock. Would doing that stop x box live?
    I have been considering a chip / hack for my X-Box but I have no interest in Pirating any games. The reasons for chipping an X-Box other than hacking / pirating:

    1. Being able to hold games on the X-Box for faster load times.
    2. (In the UK) Being able to access NTSC setting to enable higher resolution and progressive scan on my Panasonic plasma TV.
    3. Ok - only two reasons I can think of right now.....

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  • Dean C
    Senior Member

  • Dean C
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    Surely it's legal to mod your xbox. It's when you copy the software that it becomes illegal

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  • truz
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    Modding a Xbox is aloud in the UK, but not in the US I believe. Not 100% though. I have my Xbox modded. I still buy most of my games as I like to onw the original. Main reason I modded my xbox is so I can use it as entertainemt centre. Also I have my games on the HDD.

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  • Tolitz
    Senior Member

  • Tolitz
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    I'm sure any attempt to get past the restriction on modified xbox units from accessing xbox live will be met by MS countermeasures, making it more and more difficult, even for legit xbox users.

    If modders are willing to shoot "their" foot trying to get past this restriction, it's their decision

    Remember what a pain it was for legit D2 users to install or even play the game because of the copy protection put into place by Blizzard, which was prompted in the first place coz of massive piracy? Sure, it still didn't work as well as they hoped, but it caused a lot of inconvenience...

    but I guess modders don't care about it as long as they get to play their xbox online, right?

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  • Zachery
    Former vBulletin Support

  • Zachery
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    Originally posted by Brad.loo
    If you want to put it that way yes, but here in lies the problem.

    People have been able to freely modify their consoles for years, and many have become dependant on such things as modification chips to allow them to play imported games. Some do it to play titles early, most do it because a game is never released in their area.

    3/4's of my ps-one collection is imported japanese games, most never released state side.

    For a long time we could modify our hardware and not see such restrictions. You always void any support by poping open the case anyway . Obviously there is going to be a backlash when you ban all modified consoles from online play.

    Honestly I don't see it as a good move, at least for geek's anyway, most xbox owners won't ever modify their consoles anyway.

    Meh I don't even own an xbox and I know there will be a hack/patch for this floating around soon, trust me some guy with to much time on his hands wanting to use a modified xbox on xbox live is out there working on this very problem as I type this.
    Support from Mircosoft would include the ability to play on xbox live

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  • Guest
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    I still don't get the legality of region protection, I know in the UK you can buy a region free DVD player from Amazon as well as the top supermarket chains. Is it voluntary by the manufactuers?
    Some make region free players but not all, it is important to find a good quility player if you are going region free tho because some of the new disc's have an extra layer of protection that prevent them from playing in region free dvd players.

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  • dynamite
    Senior Member

  • dynamite
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    As I mentioned in my other post, I think one of the things Microsoft doesn't want to happen is for things like viruses being introduced into things like gaming systems, and with an internet connection and a system with a hard drive, it makes it more and more possible to happen! This hasn't ever been an issue in the past since systems didn't really use internet connection or have hard drives to store the malicious info.
    While these mods may be harmless, Microsoft is just trying to prevent the ones which are not. I don't really see a problem with this. Stopping a problem from 1% of the people saves bigger problems for the other 99%.

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  • chrispadfield
    Senior Member

  • chrispadfield
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    I still don't get the legality of region protection, I know in the UK you can buy a region free DVD player from Amazon as well as the top supermarket chains. Is it voluntary by the manufactuers?

    It seems to me that region encoding consoles is shooting themselves in the foot. I need to buy a DVD player for some time I am spending in Canada, had the X-box been region free (for my UK DVDs0 I might just have paid the extra, but instead I will just buy a cheapy DVD player.

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  • merk
    Senior Member

  • merk
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    Originally posted by Brad.loo
    If you want to put it that way yes, but here in lies the problem.

    People have been able to freely modify their consoles for years, and many have become dependant on such things as modification chips to allow them to play imported games. Some do it to play titles early, most do it because a game is never released in their area.
    Neither of those arguments worked in Australian Courts. Region protection is there for a reason (unfortunatly), and our laws dont let those arguments work.

    They almost did, though!

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  • Guest
    Guest

  • Guest
    Guest replied
    Originally posted by Zachery
    Mod the xbox, no support
    Mod vBulletin Files, No support

    I really don't see what the problem is, when you bought the xbox you agreed to MS's terms, and thats it, same as when you do vB.
    If you want to put it that way yes, but here in lies the problem.

    People have been able to freely modify their consoles for years, and many have become dependant on such things as modification chips to allow them to play imported games. Some do it to play titles early, most do it because a game is never released in their area.

    3/4's of my ps-one collection is imported japanese games, most never released state side.

    For a long time we could modify our hardware and not see such restrictions. You always void any support by poping open the case anyway . Obviously there is going to be a backlash when you ban all modified consoles from online play.

    Honestly I don't see it as a good move, at least for geek's anyway, most xbox owners won't ever modify their consoles anyway.

    Meh I don't even own an xbox and I know there will be a hack/patch for this floating around soon, trust me some guy with to much time on his hands wanting to use a modified xbox on xbox live is out there working on this very problem as I type this.

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  • Zachery
    Former vBulletin Support

  • Zachery
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    Mod the xbox, no support
    Mod vBulletin Files, No support

    I really don't see what the problem is, when you bought the xbox you agreed to MS's terms, and thats it, same as when you do vB.

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  • damicatz
    Banned

  • damicatz
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    You bought the X-Box, you have the right to modify it last time I checked. DMCA has so many loopholes in it that it won't last much longer, even with Bush and his (mostly resigned now) cabinet trying to save the DMCA.

    Then again, Microsoft is a horrible greedy company anyways. I manage to avoid using any and all Microsoft products and would suggest a PS2 or a Linux Gaming Box over the X-Box.

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  • Mikhailtech
    Senior Member

  • Mikhailtech
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    I don't have an Xbox, but I do have a significant amount of computer experience, and like most people here said, once you mod your Xbox you are voiding your agreement. If it were possible (from a technical standpoint), Microsoft could disable your Xbox completely, and you wouldn't be able to do a thing about it. If you're going to do something illegal (regardless of whether your reason is "legitimate"), be prepared to face the consequences.

    In software (games for instance), your CD key may get banned from online play if you're found to have a hacked one.

    In hardware, by overclocking or doing anything that's not expressly specified, you're voiding your warranty.

    What is MS doing that's so different?

    No need to get pissed because you clearly did something illegal (and just because thousands of people do it, doesn't make it legal) and now you got banned. Boo hoo.

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