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  • MrNase
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    Originally posted by Wayne Luke
    If Google doesn't give me what I need, then what good are they? Why would I invest money in garbage?
    it's so true

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  • Wayne Luke
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    Originally posted by sabret00the
    isn't the problem more an issues of people understanding the tried and tested ranking technology that you always loved?
    Not when Google changed the entire ranking algorithm about 6 months ago to put these sites on top and ruin the rankings of legitimate sites. Not when they eliminate the "democratic" essence of the web and make pagerank worth almost nothing in their ranking algorithms. Not when they completely change what they do and say it is because it gives better results when it doesn't.

    If Google doesn't give me what I need, then what good are they? Why would I invest money in garbage?

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  • sabret00the
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    Originally posted by Wayne Luke
    You like searching through spam lists for relevant content? That is all I get with them now. Every result is to some pseudo-search engine providing me a list of arbitrary links and showing Google AdSense.

    I used to do hundreds of searches on Google to find products for my retail shop looking for wholesalers. I can't do that now. It is nothing but garbage. With these kinds of results the entire site is worthless to me. I get better results with Alltheweb and Yahoo (now that they have dropped Google).

    If you like their results then use them. I can't


    Froogle gives me the same pathetic results, simply easier to go to Amazon.com. Would never use GMAIL because you can't delete emails and Google not only indexes them but will provide the results of that indexing to their advertisers. They will also most likely be tracking your clicks as well just like they do with the google toolbar. Used the news service once to get notices on the SCO v. IBM lawsuit and it sent me hundreds of rubbish emails with no content. Never looked for images and have no desire to.

    Now, I am the opposite. I used to love Google and would refer people to them all the time. Can't do that now.
    isn't the problem more an issues of people understanding the tried and tested ranking technology that you always loved?

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  • iPodder
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    Definitely !

    O! Yes ! Must Purchase some if ... I have money ^_^

    iPodder
    http://www.ipod911.com

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  • Floris
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    I must say that alltheweb is my second best

    I would never use any mail service for serious or private content anyway if i dont control it myself.

    And froogle is indeed disappointing in the results, but what i want is always on the first or second page.

    Browsing sites I am already used to ignore banners, popups and other advertisement. It just doesn't do it for me. I never click on it myself by default. People who pay to get listed on the top or the side; fine. stay there, but I want results for what I look for and easy browsing down to find it.

    Seeing the majority still uses windows as OS, I am also quite convinced those are the same users who will start using google more and more

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  • Shining Arcanine
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    Originally posted by Wayne Luke
    Nope... I hope this is actually the beginning of the end for Google. They have gone down hill in the last year and lost their vision.

    They may ride high for a while after their IPO but once they start losing more partners they won't have anything to make a profit on. I would be surprised if they make a profit without Yahoo's millions lining their coffers. Also Microsoft has already set their sites on competing directly with Google.
    It is already the beginning of the end for Google. Microsoft is moving into the search engine bussiness and their superior products will eventually leave Google out of bussiness.

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  • someuser190826
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    I have noticed a decline in Google's search credibility as well. I used to be a HARDCORE Google-only fan, but now I find myself using AllTheWeb.com more

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  • cirisme
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    I'm not looking for an argument. I was merely pointing out that you were incorrect in your statement that you can't delete your mail, that's all...

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  • Wayne Luke
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    Originally posted by cirisme
    Oh well, they already lost my confidence with previous statements. If it were Microsoft that had made the same statements, there would have been dozens of lawsuits filed immediately. And any new statements would be backtracking.

    They should have been more truthful in the beginning. They are not getting any more money from me. I won't click on AdSense ads. I won't use their search engine. I won't use their toolbar. Any of it. I won't even use partner sites of theirs.

    That is my choice though and I don't force it on anyone else.

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  • cirisme
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    Would never use GMAIL because you can't delete emails
    That's not true...

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  • Wayne Luke
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    Originally posted by Floris
    How come they have gone downhill for you?
    Personally I like the search results I am getting, but their filtering is still quite limited.
    You like searching through spam lists for relevant content? That is all I get with them now. Every result is to some pseudo-search engine providing me a list of arbitrary links and showing Google AdSense.

    I used to do hundreds of searches on Google to find products for my retail shop looking for wholesalers. I can't do that now. It is nothing but garbage. With these kinds of results the entire site is worthless to me. I get better results with Alltheweb and Yahoo (now that they have dropped Google).

    If you like their results then use them. I can't

    Their new features like froogle, gmail and news, image etc is used quite frequently by me now (gmail by review).
    Froogle gives me the same pathetic results, simply easier to go to Amazon.com. Would never use GMAIL because you can't delete emails and Google not only indexes them but will provide the results of that indexing to their advertisers. They will also most likely be tracking your clicks as well just like they do with the google toolbar. Used the news service once to get notices on the SCO v. IBM lawsuit and it sent me hundreds of rubbish emails with no content. Never looked for images and have no desire to.

    Now, I am the opposite. I used to love Google and would refer people to them all the time. Can't do that now.

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  • cirisme
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    i heard they'll be floating via auction when they eventually do :shrug:
    They're using a Dutch auction. More info here:

    http://slate.msn.com/id/1002736/
    Last edited by cirisme; Fri 30 Apr '04, 9:06am. Reason: added quote

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  • Floris
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    How come they have gone downhill for you?
    Personally I like the search results I am getting, but their filtering is still quite limited.
    The banners that show up - I wish there was an option to turn that off, because I never use them, but they aren't as obnoxious as other sites, so easy to overlook.
    Their new features like froogle, gmail and news, image etc is used quite frequently by me now (gmail by review).
    I used to dislike google, but getting more used to them as previous years and other search engines are horrible to use and just turn me off from using them.

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  • Wayne Luke
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    Originally posted by sabret00the
    Will you be buying any?
    Nope... I hope this is actually the beginning of the end for Google. They have gone down hill in the last year and lost their vision.

    They may ride high for a while after their IPO but once they start losing more partners they won't have anything to make a profit on. I would be surprised if they make a profit without Yahoo's millions lining their coffers. Also Microsoft has already set their sites on competing directly with Google.

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  • Floris
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    I will certainly do, I believe that Google has just entered the second generation of search engine / company level and one step ahead of the rest. I am sure this will only double in the next few years. It will be worth wild to invest now and enjoy later.

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